This is the full text of a facebook conversation happened on “Homeopathy For Total Cure” Group and my wall:
Chandran Nambiar K C:
A well known, internationally respected “classical” homeopath, while participating in a recent discussion on an internet group regarding “Drug Transmission at a Distance”, posted the following comments:
“Well, I use it all the time with great results. People live in areas where they have no access to remedies or in an emergency i can dose anyone as long as i have a photo. I dose the eyes and i get brilliant results. Lately i have done about 7 clients like that and they are happy”.
“I am a classical homoeopath. I work according to Hahnemann’s laws and principles. And i am moreover very critical of anything that goes against these laws. However, this is not about whether we have a new method of finding the remedy, but about the means of delivery of the dose.”
“Since Hahnemann was also a promotor of mesmerism – which is equally non-material – the criticism you voice is somewhat redundant, unless we accuse the founder of unscientific gobbled egook and of going against his own laws.”
“If scientific investigation means we look for results – which is really the goal – then we shall judge things accordingly. We must not be so naieve as to believe that homoeopathy was finished by the time the Grand Master left this earthly plane and reject all development a priori.”
“Since it are the results that count – Hahnemann being incapable of explaining how the cure takes place – we shall have to adopt this as the criterion on which to judge the fallacy or the confirmation of any method to administer the remedy. Olfactory administration is also accepted as genuine.”
“My personal experience since 1982 is that this method works and therefore deserves to be used. The means to arrive at the remedy selection still needs to be the classical Hahnemannian way. It is solely a discussion about the means of delivery here, so how does it go against homeopathic fundamental philosophy?”
“this is about a delivery system not about proving new remedies. The remedies have been proven – i do not use anything like Falcon or Butterfly. And when the delivery system works there is nothing wrong with it. There is no experiment going on after 27 years. Rather it is experience.”
“let us do that proving – i’ll be your guinea pig. Take any remedy you like and apply to my photograph, which you can copy and paste or download from my page. Print it out and apply remedy in liquid form to the eyes. I shall see what symptoms come up”
HELLO, DEAR FRIENDS. HOW DO YOU FEEL? ANY OPINIONS?
Dipen Gorani :
Transmission of Homoeopathic Drug Energy from a distance – through Hair
”There are more things in Heaven and earth, than are dreamt of in your Philosophy¡¨ ¡KShakespeare
Introduction
…During his life time Dr Heinemann had introduced 3 modes of Drug administration of Homoeopathic medicine i.e.
i) Medicine can be given orally.
ii) By touch.
iii) By olfaction.
A 4th way of Drug administration i e Transmission of Homoeo Drug Energy from a distance through the Native Hair of a Person – introduced by Late Dr. B. Sahni of Patna.
This method is wholly based on the Principle Similia Simibus curentur of the Father of Homoeopathy . Dr.S. Hahnemann.
It is never a deviation it differs only in method of application of Drug to the Patient Transmission may be called as Indirect method as there is no visual connection between the organ & the drug . It is just like Radiobroadcast system or wireless.
Mechanism : Let us Ponder at Basic idea of the Drug Transmission to a Patient through his hair from a far off distance . According to Plank’s law .
E= h„© or E/V =h
This means Smaller the Wavelength of Radiation higher will be the frequency and energy of Photon & so higher Will be the Velocity.
To understand how this high energy photon is emitted from the surface of the hair & is reabsorbed by the native hair, we have to understand the structure of the hair.
Hair are Filamentous, keratinized structures present on the surface of the Body These are derivative of epidermis which assist in thermoregulation, have sensory functions & subserve various roles in Social Communication they differ in color depending on the degrees & type of pigmentation. Such qualities differ with individuals of different ages, sex & genetic constitution. the hair of any other individual just as the fingerprint of other individual does not resemble the fingerprint of other invidiuals in this world.
since the Surface of the hair has a typical minute design & array of contours, coasts, ditches & dips, the light energy of very short wavelength is reflected & diffracted from the surface of the hair. The wavelength of such waves is extremely short, since it is being emitted from the similar minutely designed surface. As the wavelength is extremely short, it has tremendous velocity even more than that leaser rays, the hair acting as reflection grating.
When same portion of the uprooted hair of an invidious is immersed in a Homoeopathic, drug; the emitted wave is immediately affected by the Drug Energy, Now, this Wave or Photon Contaminated by the drug energy is received by the native of the Hair to whichever distance he is seated.
No other individual, accept the native can absorb this emitted drug energy, because the resonant absorption can occur only on the surface of the natives hair only disregard of the distance to which he is seated or moving.
All of you might be know what Resonance means. If a tuning fork is struck hard, it starts vibrating and if another fork of the similar design is kept at some distance apart to it, the stationary fork starts vibrating automatically. This phenomenon of emission and absorption by the similar bodes is known as Resonance.
Such a Phenomenon of the “Drug energy” emission from the surface of the detached hair of the patient and the resonant absorption of the same drug energy by the similar and detached hair of the native, seated at far off distance is known as “Sahni’s Effect” of drug energy transmission.
This Sahni’s Effect is a continuous process and the patient receives the drug energy continuously all the twenty-four hour till the patient uprooted hair is not detached from the drug and till the patient vital force needs it.
Thus the distance is no bar for the reception of the drug energy.
One important fact more to mention is that the patient is not overdosed by the transmitted drug, because the Homeopathic drug is not assimilated by the person whose vital force and the system does not require it, that is why wrongly selected drug for the transmission to a patient has no effect whatsoever to that patient. The patient never assimilated the wrong drug transmitted to affect his vital force.
Further experiments resembling Mossbaar Spectroscopy may further prove the efficacy of the Sahni’s Effect.
It will be matter of further research how far Dispeller’s Effect will retard the absorption of the drug energy by an individual moving with fast velocity in an Aero plane, that is to an individual who is receding away from the place of transmission of the drug energy. Theory of Transmission of Homoeopathic Drug Energy can be explained on the theory of DR.C.V Raman i.e.RAMAN EFFECT.
EFFECT OF TRANSMISSION: The effect of Transmission of Homeopathic drug energy on the patient kept at distance in indicated in various ways.
1 Change in feeling and Sensation.
2 Change in temperature of patient just of the transmission.
3 Change in pulse rate of heart beating.
4 Sweat on any part of the body may appear or vanish.
5 Change in Blood pressure.
6 Aggravation or Amelioration in pain if there be any.
Institute:
Research Institute of sahni Drug Transmission and Homoeopathic, Behind A.N. College, Shivpuri, patna (Bihar) )(Registered under society Registration act 1860) has been established to Guide the Practioner’s and students about Drug Transmission and Classical Homeopathic. Institute is well-equipped eighth Latest Radar and Homeopath Software with Computer. The Institute is under the Supervision of D.R.M.K. Sahni- member central Council of Homeopathy New Delhi.
Reference and courtesy: 1- The Journal of HomoeoTransmission. Volume I no.8 Aug 1995.
2- Transmission of Homoeodrug Energy From a distance- by DR. B.Sahni,B.Jain Publisher P.V.T l.t.d. New Delhi
Chandran Nambiar K C:
USING SCIENTIFIC TERMS AND CONCEPTS TO RATIONALIZE TOTALLY UNSCIENTIFIC THEORIES- THAT IS THE ACTION PLAN OF PSEUDO-SCIENCE.
Chandran Nambiar K C :
What we call EXPERIENCE is exactly our OBJECTIVE EXPERIENCE + SUBJECTIVE INTERPRETATION. And, our “interpretations’ are always influenced by our world outlook, philosophy and level of understanding. As such, that is purely individual-specif…ic. Different people EXPERIENCE same phenomenon in different ways. When somebody says “it is my experience”, remember, it is “his interpretation of his experience”.
In most cases people confuse between OBJECTIVE REALITY they have EXPERIENCED, with their SUBJECTIVE INTERPREATIONS of the objective reality. When some body says ‘it is my experience’, do not forget that it is ‘his interpretation of objective reality he has experienced’. This is true even if it be the ‘experience of our masters and stalwarts’. We have to accept the ‘objective’ side of their ‘experience’, but should be cautious about the errors related with the ‘subjective factors’.
Ashish Kr Jha:
Dear Dr Chandran, We all are practicing homeopathy as per our knowledge, intellect and experience. We believe in Homeopathy as we are getting results (during personal practice or during clinical cases seen at our seniors clinic) and not because we are taught during BHMS course.
Ashish Kr Jh:
a In the same way, unless until we see a cured case by Drug Energy Transmission, we could not believe on this.
Ashish Kr Jha:
Dr Bandhu Sahani who was the discoverer of Drug Energy Transmission through a distance worked a lot and tried his best to give the world a new way of practicing Homeopathy. And many doctors in different parts of world are now practicing this mode.
Ashish Kr Jha:
They (practitioners of Drug Energy Transmission) have several cured cases (in thousands) in their clinics, research centres, hospitals etc etc. And they are working on this to give the explanation of their practice.
Ashish Kr Jha:
Don’t you think that we should give them a moral support (if we can not give anything else) at least, to boost their effort. We should. And still if you want to see the results in their clinic, hospitals and research centres, you are most welcome.
Ashish Kr Jha:
And don’t forget to mention POSITIVE MESMERISM, while explaining NEGATIVE MESMERISM. In the same way the medicine has both the aspects.
Ashish Kr Jha:
I am asking one question to you all, What do you want to become, ‘A Prejudiced Observer or an Unprejudiced Observer’. Don’t believe or fix your ideas on what other say. If you are curious to know what is the reality, keep on searching by your own. Believe in yourself first, you will get the answer.
Ashish Kr Jha:
Some fake doctors (who are not qualified) are practicing Drug Energy Transmission without proper knowledge and experience. This is not so much important. The important thing is that we (the qualified one) are looking their way of practice and blaming Drug Energy Transmission a wrong mean.
Ashish Kr Jha:
Somehow if you get an opportunity to ask about Homeopathy, whom would you like to listen – The Great Dr Hahnemann or a Homeopathic Physician practicing allopathy. The answer is obvious if you are a true homeopath. Similarly If you have a living legend who can give better explanation of Drug Energy transmission why are you looking for here and there.
Chandran Nambiar K C
@Amit Sahani & Ashish Kr Jha : The “experience” you are talking about regarding “drug transmission through hair and photographs” is nothing new to us. The are a lot of black magicians doing “occult” practices in Indian villages, especiall…y tribal areas, who uses hair, blood, nails, foot prints, and even “shadows’ of enemies to ‘send’ evil forces’ to harm them. Only difference is that you claim to send “medicinal forces” of potentized homeopathic drugs instead of “evil forces”. All those ancient occult practices existed here in the name of “experience” the same way as you also do. They also do good ‘business’ even now, and could produce many ‘genuine’ witnesses to authenticate their claims.
We know about “radionics”. The concept behind radionics originated in the early 1900s with Albert Abrams (1864–1924), who became a millionaire by leasing radionic machines which he designed himself. Radionics also is the use of blood, hair, a signature, or other substances unique to the person as a focus to supposedly heal a patient from afar. In one form of radionics popularised by Abrams, some blood on a bit of filter paper is attached to a device Abrams called a dynamizer, which is attached by wires to a string of other devices and then to the forehead of a healthy volunteer, facing west in a dim light. By tapping on on his abdomen and searching for areas of “dullness”, disease in the donor of the blood is diagnosed by proxy. Handwriting analysis is also used to diagnose disease under this scheme. Having done this, the practitioner may use a special device known as an oscilloclast or any of a range of other devices to broadcast vibrations at the patient in order to attempt to heal them.
Albert Abrams claimed to detect such frequencies and/or cure people by matching their frequencies, and claimed them sensitive enough that he could tell someone’s religion by looking at a drop of blood. He developed thirteen devices and became a millionaire leasing his devices, and the American Medical Association described him as the “dean of gadget quacks,” and his devices were definitively proven useless by an independent investigation commissioned by Scientific American in 1924. Indeed, Abrams’ black boxes had no purpose of their own, being merely obfuscated collections of wires and electronic parts.
Radionics devices contradict principles of biology and physics, and no scientifically plausible mechanism of function is posited. In this sense, they can be described as magical in operation. No plausible biophysical basis for the “putative energy fields” has been proposed, and neither the fields themselves nor their purported therapeutic effects have been convincingly demonstrated.
No radionic device has been found efficacious in the diagnosis or treatment of any disease, and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration does not recognize any legitimate medical uses of any such device. According to David Helwig in The Gale Encyclopedia of Alternative Medicine, “most physicians dismiss radionics as quackery.”
Similar to you, proponents of Radionics also uses terms such as “frequency”, “energy”, and “vibrations’ not in its standard meaning but to describe an imputed energy type, which does not correspond to any property of energy in the scientific sense. Radionics is not based on any scientific evidence, and contradicts the principles of physics and biology and as a result it has been classed as pseudoscience and quackery by men of scientific mind set all over the world. The United States Food and Drug Administration do not recognize any legitimate medical uses for such devices.
Ashish Kr Jha:
Dear Dr Chandran I am again repeating these lines. Please read this carefully.
Ashish Kr Jha:
Why do you need a mirror to see the bangle.
Ashish Kr Jha:
I am asking one question to you all, What do you want to become, ‘A Prejudiced Observer or an Unprejudiced Observer’. Don’t believe or fix your ideas on what other say. If you are curious to know what is the reality, keep on searching by your own. Believe in yourself first, you will get the answer.
Chandran Nambiar K C:
@Ashish Kr Jha :Sir, If any body want to ‘practice’ ‘drug transmission’ or any other such occult practices, it is their choice. But when you link those unscientific practices with homeopathy, and to conduct ‘courses’ and seminars for attra…cting homeopaths into it, it is a different matter. Homeopathy is a system of therapeutics. Any ‘therapeutic’ system uses one or other drug substance into the body of the patient. Nobody can practice ‘drug transmission’ in the name of homeopathy. Sir, did you ever think about the harm you are doing to our attempts to make homeopathy accepted as part of modern scientific medical practice? Adding something that goes completely against accepted scientific knowledge system into homeopathy will create a lot of difficulties to the homeopathic profession who try it it to establish as a scientific therapeutics. You are making homeopathy a subject of constant mockery before the scientific community.I feel very much disgusted to see eminent respected homeopaths like you being part of these unscientific practices. I can only pray your goodness to return back to your rational senses.
Ashish Kr Jha:
Dear Dr Chandran, you need not to worry about those who are practicing Drug Energy Transmission. They are working continously and doing research to get the explanation and result.
Ashish Kr Jha:
And you are not the authority to stop those who are practicing Homeopathic drug energy transmission through hair. As you do not have any right to do so. Right to Information Act is available in our country, if you need any explanation from them or the Government you may send an application.
Chandran Nambiar K C:
Ashish Kr Jha: Sir, I know, I am not an authority
Ashish Kr Jha:
Dr Chandran, Sir you are a very senior homeopathic practitioner. I request you to visit their research centre in Patna, you will definitely get all the answer.
Chandran Nambiar K C:
@ Ashish Kr Jha: Thank you sir. But I have a very clear understanding about what I say. I know how to differentiate between scientiific and unscientific. I know I am “not the authority to stop those who are practicing Homeopathic drug energy transmission through hair”. But as an Indian citizen, it is my inalienable constitutional right to openly express my opinions- right for freedom of expression.
Chandran Nambiar K C:
Until and unless homeopaths study the process of ‘molecular imprinting’ involved in homeopathic potentization, and accept the modern scientific concepts of ‘molecular processes’ involved in ‘diseases’ and ‘therapeutics’, and re-explain fundamental principles of homeopathy accordingly, we will continue groping in the dark. Riddles will remain, and every cures will be ‘miracles’ and ‘marvels’ for us!
Chandran Nambiar K C:
Until that scientific revolution happens, homeopathy will be a fertile land for all sorts of ‘system builders’, ‘energy healers’, ‘occult practitioners’, and all those who make their own ‘brands’,’theories’, ‘laws’, ‘charts’, ‘principles’ …and ‘methods’. They will continue to conduct seminars, sell ‘theoretical’ books, amass money and misguide the budding young generation of homeopaths into total darkness and chaos. They will build groups of ‘dedicated followers’ and continue to threaten anybody who raises any questions. Homeopathy will remain a subject of ever-lasting mockery before the scientific community..
Anukant Goyal:
you are very right sir. nowadays only this is happening in india especially in our punjab. AUDE SAPERE.
Chandran Nambiar K C:
@Anukant Goyal : Sir, but we have to find a way out, to save homeopathy.
Anukant Goyal:
you can not go and fight with these business men. some where they are also serving homeopathy by making students dedicated to homeopathy(though through them only). moreover the person who has inquisitive mind leave them and go on the genuin…e path and those who have to go in line of sheeps only keep going. donot worry nothing is going bad with homeopathy you yourself must go on right path with full enthusiasm and energy whatever may be circumstances.
Chandran Nambiar K C:
@Anukant Goyal : Sir, last day I happened to see a report regarding a seminar conducted in bangladesh on ‘hair transmission of drug energy’. 500 homeopaths were reported to have participated. Obviously, the teachers were from India. Can yo…u still say “do not worry nothing is going bad with homeopathy “? Sir, should we ignore the heavy damage these people are inflicting upon the young generation of homeopaths, by propagating these ‘occult’ practices in the name of homeopathy? I think we have to “go and fight with these business men” for the future of homeopathy.
Chandran Nambiar K C:
And, it should not be a personal fight. I expect CCH to come forward with a clear guidelines regarding dispensing of homeopathic drugs, and strictly enforce it.
Amit Sahani:
Hering (an allopathic doctor then) was once asked to write an article ridiculing Homoeopathy. The scientist in him made him experience Homoeopathy before writing against it. And the rest is a history. Similarly, in India, Dr M L Sircar (an …allopathic doctor) wrote an article “On the Supposed Uncertainity in Medical Science and the Relationship between Diseases and Medicine” condemning Homoeopathy. But he experienced the hidden science and went on to become one of the founding pillars of Homoeopathy in India. So whats wrong if somebody practices in a unique way. The seminar at Bangladesh was about “transmission of homoeo drug energy from a distance.” Exploring possibilities is in no way wrong. Hahnemann himself kept updating the system, till last where we see him exploring the principles of Franz Anton Mesmer. If an experience is not supported by science, it cannot be ruled unscientific. Had this been the case, Homoeopathy would never have seen the light of day.
Chandran Nambiar K C
@Amit Sahani : Sir, “if an experience is not supported by science, it cannot be ruled unscientific”. But if a claim is totally “against” the existing scientific knowledge and human logic, we have to call it “unscientific”. If somebody clai…ms to cure a patient by applying homeopathic drugs in the eyes of print out of a photograph from 1000 km away, There is nothing to experiment for a scientific person to call it “absurd”. We cannot rationalize any occult practices with a question “so whats wrong if somebody practices in a unique way”.We know every occult practices can be rationalized with such a question. We cannot “experiment” each and every such things to call it “unscientific”. More ove, it is totally illegal and unethical for a qualified registered homeopath to “practice in such a unique way” and claim it is homeopathy. Homeopathy is a “therapeutic system”, which means homeopath should treat patient by “administering drug” on the “body of the patient” directly. Practicing some “unique” methods not being part of homeopathic syllabus and curriculum is obviously unhomeopathic, and amounts to quackery.
Chandran Nambiar K C:
Regarding Hahnemann’s mentioning of “mesmrism” in one of the last paragraphs of organon, it was not part his “updating the system”, and he never related with homeopathy. He mentioned about mesmerism as part of his discussions regarding “additional measures” that can be used “”along” with homeopathy, such as fomentation, galvanism, mineral baths, massage, and such things. In aphorism he clearly states that “mesmerism” “differs so much in its nature from all other therapeutic agents”. That shows that hahnemann never considered “mesmerism” as part of homeopathy, which is a therapeutic system. Hahnemann happened to support ‘mesmerism’ due to his primtive state of scientific knowledge available to him at that time. Not only mesmerism, there a lot of “unscientific” observations made by hahnemann. A scientifi minded modern man can differentiate what is ‘scientific’ and what is ‘unscientific’ in hahnemann.
Chandran Nambiar K C:
@Amit Sahani: Sir, I agree with your statement “exploring possibilities is in no way wrong”. As such you can rightfully “explore possibilities” of “transmission of homeo drug energy from a distance”. But until your concept is proved using… “scientific methods” such “exploring” has to be done on “experimental basis”, and not as a “regular practice”. It is obviously wrong, unethical and illegal to conduct seminars and course to propagate such a “system” until it is scientifically verified by an authentic scientific body, especially claiming it is part of homeopathy. According to my scientific knowledge and rational thinking, I need not wait for any experiments to call these “photo transmissions” and “drug transmissions” as unscientific absurdity.
Chandran Nambiar K C:
@Amit Sahani : Sir, The “experience” you are talking about regarding “drug transmission through hair and photographs” is nothing new to us. The are a lot of black magicians doing “occult” practices in Indian villages, especially tribal areas, who uses hair, blood, nails, foot prints, and even “shadows’ of enemies to ‘send’ evil forces’ to harm them. Only difference is that you claim to send “medicinal forces” of potentized homeopathic drugs instead of “evil forces”. All those ancient occult practices existed here in the name of “experience” the same way as you also do. They also do good ‘business’ even now, and could produce many ‘genuine’ witnesses to authenticate their claims.
REDEFINING HOMEOPATHY 