A well known, internationally respected “classical” homeopath, while participating in a recent discussion on an internet group regarding “Drug Transmission at a Distance”, posted the following comments:
“Well, I use it all the time with great results. People live in areas where they have no access to remedies or in an emergency i can dose anyone as long as i have a photo. I dose the eyes and i get brilliant results. Lately i have done about 7 clients like that and they are happy”.
“I am a classical homoeopath. I work according to Hahnemann’s laws and principles. And i am moreover very critical of anything that goes against these laws. However, this is not about whether we have a new method of finding the remedy, but about the means of delivery of the dose.”
“Since Hahnemann was also a promotor of mesmerism – which is equally non-material – the criticism you voice is somewhat redundant, unless we accuse the founder of unscientific gobbled egook and of going against his own laws.”
“If scientific investigation means we look for results – which is really the goal – then we shall judge things accordingly. We must not be so naieve as to believe that homoeopathy was finished by the time the Grand Master left this earthly plane and reject all development a priori.”
“Since it is the results that count – Hahnemann being incapable of explaining how the cure takes place – we shall have to adopt this as the criterion on which to judge the fallacy or the confirmation of any method to administer the remedy. Olfactory administration is also accepted as genuine.”
“My personal experience since 1982 is that this method works and therefore deserves to be used. The means to arrive at the remedy selection still needs to be the classical Hahnemannian way. It is solely a discussion about the means of delivery here, so how does it go against homeopathic fundamental philosophy?”
“This is about a delivery system not about proving new remedies. The remedies have been proven – i do not use anything like Falcon or Butterfly. And when the delivery system works there is nothing wrong with it. There is no experiment going on after 27 years. Rather it is experience.”
“Let us do that proving – i’ll be your guinea pig. Take any remedy you like and apply to my photograph, which you can copy and paste or download from my page. Print it out and apply remedy in liquid form to the eyes. I shall see what symptoms come up.”
Read the full text of above post on this lin: http://www.homeopathyworldcommunity.com/forum/topics/transmission-of-homoeopathic?id=3101571%3ATopic%3A40484&page=3#comments
See the last para of my quote: “Take any remedy you like and apply to my photograph, which you can copy and paste or download from my page. Print it out and apply remedy in liquid form to the eyes”.
I wonder why should we take the printout of photo? Can’t we use the drugs directly in the eyes of photo in the computer screen itself? “Vibrations” and “radiations” would be more there!
See, these “foolish’ suggestion come from not an ordinary person like you and me. He is a reputed ‘big shark’ in international ‘classical homeopathy. I consider it a “pseudoscience” and quackery. It has nothing to do with the science of homeopathy. USING SCIENTIFIC TERMS AND CONCEPTS TO RATIONALIZE TOTALLY UNSCIENTIFIC THEORIES- THAT IS THE ACTION PLAN OF PSEUDO-SCIENCE.
We should not let these people go like this. They should not be allowed pretend as homeopaths. If they want to practice occult, let them do without misusing the name of homeopathy
If this type of occult practice is being claimed to be homeopathy, I really feel ashamed to say I am a homeopath. How can I face the scientific community and talk about “scientific explanation of homeopathy”?
If ‘drug energy’ can be “transmitted” to me from long distances through a hair, nail, blood or other tissues removed from my body, and even photographs, how can I dare to throw away my hair in a garbage pit? What if somebody unknowingly deposits some toxic substances on it? How can I entrust my blood sample to a clinical lab, without fearing that they can do some mischief to me by putting some harmful medicines in my blood sample? I think I have to be very cautious to preserve my cut hair and nail without reaching the hands of my enemies!
If we want to make homeopathy a scientific medical system, homeopaths should at least start to evaluate things by studying ‘what is said’, than ‘who said it’. Even theUKbased ‘international’ homeopath claims he get excellent ‘results’ even in ‘incurable’ cases by using ‘medicines’ in the eyes of photographs of patients downloaded from computer around the world!. He is also a man of ‘great credentials’. Same with ‘masters’ of ‘hair transmission’ method. That man who sent ‘mp3 files of drugs’ toHaitialso is a revered name in international homeopathy. ‘Five-cups -spoon’ method also is contributed by a famous homeopath. We cannot question them, because they are men of great credentials and positions. Until unless we succeed in understanding the exact active principles of homeopathic drugs, and the real mechanism of their therapeutic action, this will go on. And people will ‘follow’ the ‘foolishness’ of ‘masters’ having ‘credentials’ and ‘positions’.
All those ‘masters’ I referred above conducts seminars, write books, and are ‘followed’ by thousands of homeopaths. I was warned by such ‘followers’ not to touch their ‘masters’ which they say are sleeping lions. And I am warned that I will have no ‘place to run’ if I disturb them. But I have decided to listen only to ‘what is said’, ignoring ‘who said it’, and I believe, only that way we can make homeopathy a scientific medical system.
If somebody claims “took the mp3 files of drugs and gave the vibration of the remedy, it worked”, why should we hesitate to call them ‘unscientific’? I don’t think there is anything to ‘investigate’ in it. If a ‘homeopath’ claims he is treating ‘patients all over the world sitting in UK’, sending ‘medicinal energy’ by applying drugs in the eyes of photographs downloaded from computer, what investigation you are talking about to be conducted to call him a ‘fraud’? Same with ‘hair transmission’, dowsing’, ‘radionics’ and such things, which are beyond any doubt unscientific, as far as i am concerned. Should we swallow all these garbage to ‘prove’ that we are not prejudiced?
WHOLE SCIENTIFIC MINDED HOMEOPATHS AND PROFESSIONAL BODIES SHOULD COME FORWARD AGAINST THESE “OCCULT” PRACTICES DONE IN THE NAME OF HOMEOPATHY. THESE PEOPLE ARE MAKING HOMEOPATHY A SUBJECT OF MOCKERY BEFORE THE SCIENTIFIC COMMUNITY.
A few months back, a lady homeopath from US came and posted an article on my page, explaining her dispensing methods. After exhaustive case taking and repertorization she selects a similimum. Then she writes the name of drug on a piece of p…aper and places on a table. Then she would place a glass of water on that paper and keep it there for 30 minutes to ‘potentize’ the water with medicinal energy. Then she would ask the patient to take this ‘energized’ water in teaspoon doses. She was practicing this ‘method’ for last 5 years with ‘miraculous results”! I asked her in which language I should write on the paper, and whether abbreviation is enough. She got annoyed and started educating me regarding ‘fringe science’, ‘ultra-science’ and ‘energy medicine’. She used all sorts of scientific terms from quantum science to explain her theory, and told a lot about ‘unscientificness’ of modern science. It ended in a bitter encounter of words, and she quit cursing me!
There is a saying in malayalam: “Even on the milk-filled udder of cow, mosquitoes relishes only blood”. There are many scientific things in ORGANON that is useful; but these people are looking for whatever unscientific things hahnemann talked about, because that only satisfies their appetite!
I fear these people may argue “mesmerism” is a “fundamental law” of homeopathy, and those who do not believe and practice “mesmerism” are not “real homeopaths”, since hahnemann have said about it in “”organon” and Organon is our “bible”! my only hope is that my friend Shonit Danwer would not say so!
Every thing hahnemann said cannot be ‘scientific’. He said a lot of ‘scientific’ and ‘unscientific’ things. Remember, he was talking 200 years ago!. We should be capable of identifying what is ‘scientific’ and what is ‘unscientific’ in what hahnemann said
Now, WE have enough scientific tools to verify all these things, and we should utilize them judiciously. I would never sa…y homeopathy as such is scientific. There are a lot of unscientific garbage in it. In my opinion, ‘similia similibus curentur’ reflects an ‘objective’ reality interpreted and explained by hahnemann ‘subjectively’ in a very unscientific way. Same way, ‘potentization’ also is an ‘objective phenomenon interpreted unscientifically. I am asking to discard all those unscientific things from homeopathy, and take its scientific kernel forward.
The “experience” you are talking about regarding “drug transmission through hair and photographs” is nothing new to us. The are a lot of black magicians doing “occult” practices in Indian villages, especiall…y tribal areas, who uses hair, blood, nails, foot prints, and even “shadows’ of enemies to ‘send’ evil forces’ to harm them. Only difference is that you claim to send “medicinal forces” of potentized homeopathic drugs instead of “evil forces”. All those ancient occult practices existed here in the name of “experience” the same way as you also do. They also do good ‘business’ even now, and could produce many ‘genuine’ witnesses to authenticate their claims.
We know about “radionics”. The concept behind radionics originated in the early 1900s with Albert Abrams (1864–1924), who became a millionaire by leasing radionic machines which he designed himself. Radionics also is the use of blood, hair, a signature, or other substances unique to the person as a focus to supposedly heal a patient from afar. In one form of radionics popularised by Abrams, some blood on a bit of filter paper is attached to a device Abrams called a dynamizer, which is attached by wires to a string of other devices and then to the forehead of a healthy volunteer, facing west in a dim light. By tapping on on his abdomen and searching for areas of “dullness”, disease in the donor of the blood is diagnosed by proxy. Handwriting analysis is also used to diagnose disease under this scheme. Having done this, the practitioner may use a special device known as an oscilloclast or any of a range of other devices to broadcast vibrations at the patient in order to attempt to heal them.
Albert Abrams claimed to detect such frequencies and/or cure people by matching their frequencies, and claimed them sensitive enough that he could tell someone’s religion by looking at a drop of blood. He developed thirteen devices and became a millionaire leasing his devices, and the American Medical Association described him as the “dean of gadget quacks,” and his devices were definitively proven useless by an independent investigation commissioned by Scientific American in 1924. Indeed, Abrams’ black boxes had no purpose of their own, being merely obfuscated collections of wires and electronic parts.
Radionics devices contradict principles of biology and physics, and no scientifically plausible mechanism of function is posited. In this sense, they can be described as magical in operation. No plausible biophysical basis for the “putative energy fields” has been proposed, and neither the fields themselves nor their purported therapeutic effects have been convincingly demonstrated.
No radionic device has been found efficacious in the diagnosis or treatment of any disease, and the U.S. Food and Drug Administration does not recognize any legitimate medical uses of any such device. According to David Helwig in The Gale Encyclopedia of Alternative Medicine, “most physicians dismiss radionics as quackery.”
Similar to ‘hair transmissionists’, proponents of Radionics also uses terms such as “frequency”, “energy”, and “vibrations’ not in its standard meaning but to describe an imputed energy type, which does not correspond to any property of energy in the scientific sense. Radionics is not based on any scientific evidence, and contradicts the principles of physics and biology and as a result it has been classed as pseudoscience and quackery by men of scientific mind set all over the world. The United States Food and Drug Administration do not recognize any legitimate medical uses for such devices.
If any body want to ‘practice’ ‘drug transmission’ or any other such occult practices, it is their choice. But when you link those unscientific practices with homeopathy, and to conduct ‘courses’ and seminars for attracting homeopaths into it, it is a different matter. Homeopathy is a system of therapeutics. Any ‘therapeutic’ system uses one or other drug substance into the body of the patient. Nobody can practice ‘drug transmission’ in the name of homeopathy. Sir, did you ever think about the harm you are doing to our attempts to make homeopathy accepted as part of modern scientific medical practice? Adding something that goes completely against accepted scientific knowledge system into homeopathy will create a lot of difficulties to the homeopathic profession who try it it to establish as a scientific therapeutics. You are making homeopathy a subject of constant mockery before the scientific community.I feel very much disgusted to see eminent respected homeopaths like you being part of these unscientific practices. I can only pray your goodness to return back to your rational senses.
I know how to differentiate between scientific and unscientific. I know I am “not the authority to stop those who are practicing Homeopathic drug energy transmission through hair”. But as an Indian citizen, it is my inalienable constitutional right to openly express my opinions- right for freedom of expression.
YOU CANNOT MAKE A TOTALLY UNSCIENTIFIC PRACTICE ESTABLISH SCIENTIFIC, BY MERELY USING SOME SCIENTIFIC TERMS. THAT IS THE WAY ANY “PSEUDOSCIENCE” IS PROPAGATED. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO PRACTICE ANY OCCULT YOU BELIEVE. BUT I HAVE RIGHT TO SAY IT IS IS NOT HOMEOPATHY, AND IT IS TOTALLY UNSCIENTIFIC.
If you could finally prove “drug transmission from distance” through “scientific methods”, you will get all nobel prizes in physics, chemistry, biology and medicine together. Since you will prove all existing sciences wrong through your research, all the nobel prizes so far given through years will have to be taken back by the sweedish academy.
Until a scientific revolution happens in homeopathy, it will be a fertile land for all sorts of ‘system builders’, ‘energy healers’, ‘occult practitioners’, and all those who make their own ‘brands’,’theories’, ‘laws’, ‘charts’, ‘principles’ and ‘methods’. They will continue to conduct seminars, sell ‘theoretical’ books, amass money and misguide the budding young generation of homeopaths into total darkness and chaos. They will build groups of ‘dedicated followers’ and continue to threaten anybody who raises any questions. Homeopathy will remain a subject of ever-lasting mockery before the scientific community..
Regarding Hahnemann’s mentioning of “mesmrism” in one of the last paragraphs of organon, it was not part his “updating the system”, and he never related with homeopathy. He mentioned about mesmerism as part of his discussions regarding “additional measures” that can be used “along” with homeopathy, such as fomentation, galvanism, mineral baths, massage, and such things. In aphorism he clearly states that “mesmerism” “differs so much in its nature from all other therapeutic agents”. That shows that hahnemann never considered “mesmerism” as part of homeopathy, which is a therapeutic system. Hahnemann happened to support ‘mesmerism’ due to his primtive state of scientific knowledge available to him at that time. Not only mesmerism, there a lot of “unscientific” observations made by hahnemann. A scientifi minded modern man can differentiate what is ‘scientific’ and what is ‘unscientific’ in hahnemann.
Anybody has the right to “explore possibilities” of “transmission of homeo drug energy from a distance”. But until your concept is proved using “scientific methods” such “exploring” has to be done on “experimental basis”, and not as a “regular practice”. It is obviously wrong, unethical and illegal to conduct seminars and course to propagate such a “system” until it is scientifically verified by an authentic scientific body, especially claiming it is part of homeopathy. According to my scientific knowledge and rational thinking, I need not wait for any experiments to call these “photo transmissions” and “drug transmissions” as unscientific absurdity.
Some ‘modern masters’ pretend that homeopathy will become a ‘medical science’ by merely sprinkling some scientific and ultra-scientific terms such as ‘genetic’, ‘quantum’, ‘embryonic’, ‘particles’, ‘vibrations’ ‘resonance’, ‘energy field’, ‘teleportation’, ‘radiations’, ‘frequency’, ‘string’ and the like here and there in their articles and lectures.
Same time they would talk about ‘unscientificness’ and ‘limitations’ of modern science.
Next moment they would explain homeopathy in terms of ‘vital force’, ‘dynamic energy’, ‘mind remedy’, ‘spiritual remedies’, ‘hair transmissions’, ‘photo-transmissions’, ‘radionics’, and such other absurd occult practices. These people make homeopathy a subject of unending laughter and mockery before the scientific community.
These people are not interested in real scientific understanding of homeopathy. All of them are marketing their own ‘theories’ and ‘methods’, and have built up a closed community of ardent followers around them. They fear any new wave of scientific understanding in homeopathy would sweep away their sand hills of fame and fortunes.That is why they are desperately fighting tooth and nail to resist any attempts of real scientific awareness.
By ‘scientific homeopathy’, I mean an open system of theory and practice of Homeopathy that fits to our existing scientific knowledge system, which could be verified with available scientific methods and tools, with the involvement of scientific community. At least, we have to make it a theory and practice that do not go against fundamental principles of modern science.
By ‘scientific homeopathy’, I mean a theory and practice of homeopathy that fits into the scientific paradigms of modern biochemistry, molecular biology and life sciences.
By ‘scientific homeopathy’, I mean a theory and practice of homeopathy that would agree with the scientific knowledge provided by modern physiology, pathology and therapeutics.
By scientific homeopathy’, I mean an understanding of homeopathic drugs that can be explained using the language and concepts of modern material sciences, medical science and pharmacology.